David Martosko 15:44 (54:36)

The last question: Does President Trump run again in 2024? Yes or no?



Ric Grenell 15:50 (54:40)

President Trump has told me that he's going to run again in 2024. But it remains to be seen over the next couple of years if that changes, but uh he had made all indications that he would.



David Martosko 15:58 (54:51)

How long ago was it? How long ago was it that he told you that?



Ric Grenell 16:07 (54:56)

After the November election.



David Martosko 16:08 (55:01)

interesting. So you really think he's going to do this unless something major changes?



Ric Grenell 16:14 (55:03)

I didn't say that, David.



David Martosko 16:14

No, no, but do you think he's going to do this in the absence of a big change?



Ric Grenell 16:18

You asked me if he was going to run again and my answer was, he has indicated to me that he will run again, and it remains to be seen.