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00:00What do you want? I mean, Mr. Gandapur was closing down Pakistan and first of all, he closed down his seat by sitting on that oath.
00:07You people are not following the amendment. Now, according to that, you are putting your members in the Judicial Commission.
00:15The Parliamentary Committee that you didn't follow, you used to sit in it, you used to get up in it.
00:19There's a complete confusion in the party.
00:24Thank you, Mr. Malik. Congratulations on the new program.
00:26Thank you, sir.
00:27No, there's no confusion. Look, Mr. Ali Amin Gandapur has two roles. It's very simple.
00:33One of his roles is as a political leader of the party and one of his roles is as Chief Minister of the province.
00:39Now, the Chief Minister of the province is important because he is a member of Wifaq.
00:45And he has some responsibilities. You have to be a part of Wifaq, you have to go with Wifaq, you have to work with them.
00:52So, his presence in the Presidency yesterday, on Sunday, he was the Chief Minister of KP.
01:00And he was important and he was absolutely right.
01:03We thought, I know that this is your stance and this is the evidence that is being given.
01:09Either you have principled politics, always PTI claims that it is principled politics.
01:13In principled politics, there are no ifs and buts. Either you are for or against.
01:18If tomorrow you find out that Mr. Amin Gandapur is meeting a general in some intelligence mess,
01:25he will say, I went there as Chief Minister, I was a state official.
01:28I didn't go there as Gandapur, I didn't go there as PTI leader.
01:31So, then there is a fiasco that wherever he doesn't suit, he becomes the Chief Minister.
01:37Wherever he suits, he is someone else. This is an excuse. Either you are for or against.
01:43Look, Mr. Malik, it is a very simple thing. What I have told you is a fact.
01:47He is the Chief Executive of a province and he is also the leader of a party.
01:52Now, what role he has to play in both, what role he has to play in both positions,
01:57he has to play both roles. One is his political role and the other is his administrative role as head of the province.
02:02You have kept two hats conveniently.
02:04This is a fact. This is a fact.
02:08As Mr. Niaz said in the assembly, these are my resources in that case in Ravenfield.
02:14So, his lawyer said, this was a political statement.
02:17No, there is no political statement here, sir.
02:19Look, as Chief Minister of the province, he has to be a part of the unity.
02:23We are a part of the alliance as a unity.
02:26So, if we see him coming out of some secret ISI mess at 11 o'clock in the night,
02:31then we will not raise our fingers that this Ali Gandapur has come to make a deal.
02:36Is that what you want us to do?
02:40Look, there is no secret in this country.
02:43People like you can find out where you are sitting.
02:46Number one thing.
02:47Number two thing is that KP is a province where there is the most interaction of intelligence agencies.
02:52It is a restive province.
02:54You should not overlook that either.
02:56So, I am not saying that he must have gone and sat in the mess or not.
02:59Mr. Rauf, I agree.
03:00You have given him a blanket cover of Ameer Gandapur.
03:04The fact is that he has to work.
03:06He heads a restive province.
03:08He has interaction with intelligence agencies.
03:11There is a core sitting there.
03:13So, Gandapur is a carte blanche.
03:15He can go wherever he wants.
03:17I will not give him a carte blanche.
03:19No one ever gets a carte blanche.
03:21But I feel that he is doing a difficult job.
03:23A very difficult job.
03:24Tell me, in your opinion,
03:26a judicial commission,
03:28you people have said that they have made a judicial commission
03:30and its strength will be such that
03:32the government will always win
03:34and it will nominate its own people.
03:36Why are you sitting in that?
03:40We are not saying that the government can nominate its own people.
03:43If you go to the constitution,
03:45first of all, talk about the principle.
03:47The principle is that
03:49obviously, you are absolutely right
03:51that we do not accept the legitimacy of this constitutional amendment.
03:53Number two,
03:55we refused to sit in that committee
03:57because it was
04:00we did not accept its legitimacy.
04:02Secondly, it was a one-time committee.
04:04They appointed a Chief Justice.
04:06This commission,
04:08Supreme Judicial Commission,
04:10I think it is called a commission,
04:12its composition has 13 members
04:14and it is not in the hands of the government.
04:16It is an ongoing commission.
04:18I will tell you how.
04:20I will ask you all in this.
04:22You people objected the most
04:24that these three judges
04:26have become the panel of senior judges.
04:28So, they have controlled three judges
04:30in the government
04:32because everyone knows that
04:34any one of us can be the next Chief Justice.
04:36So, we will not have fun with the government.
04:38In this commission,
04:40there will be Chief Justice
04:42and four judges who will be the senior judges.
04:44That means,
04:46the three senior judges
04:48will be considered in that panel
04:50and one of those three will become the next Chief Justice.
04:52Not just one of those three,
04:54it can be one of the other three.
04:57Mansoor Ali Shah, Muneeb Shah,
04:59and Ameen Uddin Khan.
05:01Okay.
05:03Now, leave aside the names.
05:05Let's talk about the principles.
05:07So, these three will be the contenders
05:09to become the next Chief Justice.
05:11So, they will vote very carefully.
05:13They will have a lot of fun
05:15with the government
05:17because they cannot harm their name.
05:19So, how can you say
05:21that voting will go there
05:23and clear will go there?
05:26There are two differences.
05:28Number one,
05:30this is an ongoing commission.
05:32The work will continue.
05:34This is not a one-time thing.
05:36Number two,
05:38there will be representatives
05:40of the Bar Association.
05:42And these four judges
05:44will stand with the law.
05:46And if they stand with the law,
05:48then it becomes very simple.
05:50Do you have the same faith
05:52as Ameen Uddin Khan?
05:54Basically, we have faith in the judiciary.
05:56We are standing with the judiciary.
05:58Now, some judges
06:00will come and their decisions
06:02will not be accepted.
06:04This is an ongoing thing.
06:06You don't accept amendments
06:08but you are participating
06:10in the things that are being made
06:12under the amendment.
06:14You said that you will close
06:16the country of a senior judge
06:18but you are going for his oath-taking.
06:20You said that the Judicial Commission
06:23used to go in and out.
06:25If this is not principle politics,
06:27and if it is power politics,
06:29then I will apologize.
06:31Then you are doing something very strange.
06:33No, no, no.
06:35The political committee has decided
06:37to go to the Judicial Commission.
06:39Mr. Khan's endorsement is yet to come.
06:41Mr. Khan's decision depends on
06:43whether we go or not.
06:45Since this issue has leaked out,
06:47I am saying that the political committee
06:49has decided this.
06:51We told you everything at one time.
06:53The rest of the things, frankly,
06:55are a matter of time.
06:57The party makes a decision
06:59based on the developments.
07:01It tries to make the best decision
07:03possible.
07:05You are looking for contradictions
07:07in your statement.
07:09But if the party feels
07:11that we should do this
07:13at this time,
07:15we should play a role
07:17as the biggest political party
07:19in the world.

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