"Siyasi Jamaton kay Baghair koi Tajveez Agay nahi Jasakti ye Baat PTI ko Jitni Jaldi Samaj Ajaye..." Fawad Chaudhry's Analysis

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"Siyasi Jamaton kay Baghair koi Tajveez Agay nahi Jasakti ye Baat PTI ko Jitni Jaldi Samaj Ajaye..." Fawad Chaudhry's Analysis
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00:00If I understand your statement correctly, if I recall correctly what you said half a day ago
00:05that the national government should be led by a person like Mastad-e-Wizaarat-e-Uzma
00:09who is favoured by Zardari, Khan and Nawaz Sharif
00:14then in today's date, Nawaz Sharif will not be happy with this, Zardari will not be happy with this
00:18but if on a scale of 1 to 10, his approval will be 5
00:23then Khan's approval will be zero
00:25In today's date, Imran Khan will be the one to oppose this proposal the most
00:30Am I not right?
00:32No, Imran Khan, the thing is that there are only two ways
00:37either like in Bangladesh, you will take to the streets
00:42and then what will happen?
00:44There will be violence, there will be a scene
00:46who will win till the end of your hair?
00:49We don't know, those are unseen consequences
00:52Nobody knows what will happen there
00:54My personal fear is that
00:56in this case, the extremist groups and people who have created a scene here in D-Chowk
01:01you can then target Pakistan there
01:04and that will be a big problem for Pakistan
01:08so we have to avoid that
01:10Your proposal is actually for the chairman of PTI
01:12that sir, please step back a little
01:14towards the political parties
01:16sit with them and together nominate the national government so that the country can move forward
01:20Am I right?
01:21Without the inclusion of the political parties
01:25no proposal can move forward
01:27Only the establishment cannot solve the problems
01:30and it is better if the PTI understands this as soon as possible
01:34and it is better if the establishment understands this as soon as possible
01:37that you have to bring the PTI into this equation
01:40These two who are currently standing on completely different positions
01:45they will have to step back from their positions one by one
01:49and you will have to create a national government for a cooling off period
01:53Obviously, if you ask the PTI
01:56the PTI will be elected tomorrow
01:58there will be an independent election commission
02:00PTI will win 3-4 seats
02:02but then you will have to convince the non-league and people's party
02:06that what we have done with the people's party and PTI
02:10if they come to do this, then what?
02:12You have to convince them that this will not happen
02:15and we have to make Pakistan normal
02:17For that, it is important that there is a cooling off period
02:19But Fawad sahab, on a daily basis
02:21there is something happening
02:23which is taking the relationship to a new level
02:26in terms of corruption
02:28Today, they gave a statement
02:30that Faiz Ameed should be trialled in an open court
02:32From there, the news started circulating in the media
02:34about the security measures
02:36that who is he to say
02:38whether it should be an open trial or not
02:40This is our internal matter
02:42Keep this in mind, quote unquote
02:44If they are trialled, it will not be an open trial
02:46And when it happens, we will know
02:48what to do and what not to do
02:50Now, obviously, the matter has gone one step further
02:52Do you think this statement was necessary?
02:54Till yesterday, they were saying that
02:56Faiz Ameed should go, Fawad should go
02:58What does it have to do with me?
03:00Today, when they say that open court should be trialled
03:02Who are you to say that?
03:04Was it necessary to give this statement to Mr. Khan?
03:06Should open court be trialled?
03:08Look, I think the people who are going to react
03:10did it in a hurry
03:12They did not listen to the entire statement
03:14What I have read in Don,
03:16the entire context of the statement
03:18is that if General Faiz
03:20is involved in 9th May,
03:22I am already saying that
03:24the case of 9th May should go to open court
03:26so that the person who is at fault
03:28can come in front of the people
03:30So, they have fully qualified
03:32that if this is the case,
03:34then what I was saying earlier
03:36that he should go ahead according to that
03:38And that statement is their consistency
03:40What they are saying earlier, they are still saying
03:43So, you were not saying about Mr. Fareed
03:45that his trial should be open court
03:47No, no, no
03:49If you open the website of Don
03:51and read the entire statement
03:53then the problem is that
03:55I had once told my waitress
03:57that please request Mr. Khan
03:59on my behalf
04:01that when he answers the questions
04:03of the reporters
04:05then the question is not coming
04:07only their answer is reported
04:09which does not reveal the context
04:11So, if they only talk about themselves
04:13and do not ask questions
04:15then communication will be better in jail
04:17This communication problem
04:19is a major issue
04:21So, your opinion is
04:23that they are saying
04:25that my trial should be open court
04:27which I am saying from the first day
04:29I will not say anything about Mr. Nameen
04:31Exactly, that is very clear
04:33what they have contested
04:35this is exactly what is written in Don
04:37And if they had said this
04:39So, your opinion is
04:41that if it is open court
04:43then it is not possible
04:45and there is a high demand for it
04:47Is it so?
04:49Look, Vasim, you and I
04:51do not know about the charges
04:53Now, the law of open court
04:55is very different
04:57For example,
04:59the court martial is only against
05:01the serving officers
05:03and the officer who retires
05:05after 6 months
05:08This is the military law
05:10Now, the press release
05:12says that
05:14this is related to
05:16top city issues
05:18So, the military trial
05:20will take place
05:22We do not have any information
05:24about the charges
05:26So, I would not like to comment
05:28But the military law
05:30on mutiny is very clear
05:32that it will not happen after 6 months
05:34I am sure
05:36If the press release is
05:38on the level of an institution
05:40then it will be after 6 months
05:42Towards the end
05:44You also
05:46Because there are many things
05:48related to Mr. Faiz Ameed and Mr. Khan
05:50You remember, you and I
05:52were in a session
05:54Not about Mr. Faiz
05:56You said in a podcast
05:58that the chief election commissioner
06:00who is a big accusation of Mr. Imran Khan
06:02that the whole election was manoeuvred
06:04by Noon League
06:06through Mr. Faiz Ameed
06:08This is very strange
06:10Officially, the name given by Noon League
06:12was not there
06:14So, the name of Mr. Khan
06:16was suggested
06:18And Mr. Faiz Ameed's service
06:20was not from Noon League
06:22First of all, you and I
06:24are students of Pakistan's politics
06:26from a long time
06:28We debate on this
06:30Any DG ISI
06:33has a very close relationship with the Prime Minister
06:35Whether it is General Hameed Gul
06:37Whether it is General Javed Nasir
06:39Whether it is General Ehsan
06:41Or General Faiz
06:43Or anybody
06:45General Nadeem
06:47has a close relationship with the Prime Minister
06:49Because
06:51there is a demand for his working
06:53So, in the same way
06:55General Faiz also has a close relationship
06:57But this impression
06:59that General Faiz
07:01was so powerful
07:03that he used to veto Imran Khan
07:05Whoever knows
07:07Imran Khan
07:09knows that this is not possible
07:11And Imran Khan does not have
07:13such a personality
07:15that he can be easily vetoed
07:17There were a lot of things
07:19that he used to say
07:21and Imran Khan did not agree
07:23For example, Usman Guzdar
07:25General Faiz
07:27and General Bajwa
07:29Imran Khan did not agree
07:31This particular thing
07:33of Sultan Sikandar Raja
07:35Noon League and People's Party
07:37and PTI
07:39were tied in that committee
07:41And at that time
07:43Sultan Sikandar Raja's name
07:45came from
07:47General Faiz
07:49Sultan Sikandar Raja was very close
07:51He is the son-in-law of Saeed Mehdi
07:53He was very close to Noon League
07:55And he made this name
07:57Later I came to know
07:59that he gave this name
08:01through Imran Khan
08:03Later Imran Khan himself said
08:27And PTI's official Twitter account
08:29says that
08:31If Faiz Ameed is the main character
08:33of the 9th May conspiracy
08:35then the Army Chiefs demand
08:37that Faiz Ameed should be trialled
08:39in an open court
08:41And the facts will be revealed
08:43So according to Don's story
08:45he is using Faiz Ameed's name
08:47No, he said that
08:49if he has a role in 9th May
08:51then the 9th May trial
08:53should be an open trial
08:56But he is also saying
08:58that Faiz Ameed should be trialled
09:00in an open court
09:02He is saying that
09:04if he has a role in 9th May
09:06then he should be trialled
09:08in an open court
09:10And the facts will be revealed
09:12Earlier it seemed that
09:14General Faiz's trial
09:16should be an open trial
09:18But he said that
09:20if he has a role in 9th May
09:22then he should be trialled

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