Karine Jean-Pierre Asked About President Biden's Executive Order On The Border And Immigration
At a press briefing on Tuesday, Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre was asked about President Biden's immigration executive order.
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00:00So, as you were indicating, when the President's at Camp David,
00:02he's still President, do you intend to brief
00:04during the time that he is away?
00:06We don't typically do traditional press briefings
00:09when the President is away,
00:10so we do not have a scheduled formal briefing to speak of.
00:18But obviously, we will continue the press team
00:22and, with our policy folks as needed,
00:23will continue to hold briefing calls
00:26when appropriate to preview upcoming events,
00:28upcoming announcement.
00:29That is something that we will do.
00:31And, obviously, if you all have any questions,
00:34we will be here to answer any of those questions.
00:37We would request that you would brief
00:38because it's working days even if the President is away.
00:41You guys want to continue seeing me?
00:43We want to see you, yes.
00:44It's several days.
00:46On the issue of immigration,
00:49do you view today's executive order
00:51as sort of a counterweight
00:53to the asylum measure that the President signed?
00:55You know, I wouldn't look at it that way.
00:57I really wouldn't.
00:58And this is what I've been trying to say
01:00when I've been up here.
01:01It's like this system is broken.
01:04More broadly, it is a broken system, right?
01:07We're seeing the challenges at the border.
01:10We're seeing immigration policy
01:11that has not been revamped for some time,
01:15and the President wants to address that.
01:17And we can do.
01:18We can do the EO and deal with the border security
01:23and secure the border in that way
01:25and also make sure that American families
01:28are not broken up, right?
01:29Make sure that people who have been contributing
01:33to our economy, to communities, have an opportunity here.
01:37And so I think we're trying to really deal
01:41with a broad stroke of issues here,
01:43and that's what you're seeing this President do.
01:44And how does he find the balance between wanting to,
01:48as you describe it, keep American families together,
01:51to select people who've been in the country
01:54for a longer period of time,
01:56and then the sort of balance,
01:58the fact that they would get some benefits
02:00that other immigrants would not get
02:03and have reduced penalties and that kind of thing?
02:05How does he make that balance?
02:07Well, so say a little bit more?
02:10Well, without this kind of a program,
02:12people would have to leave the country.
02:14They would have a longer period of time
02:16for getting a green card, those sorts of things.
02:18So how does he find that balance
02:19between something that is giving a benefit
02:22to people who, at one point, broke the rules?
02:25I mean, look, here's the thing.
02:27The eligible population is limited,
02:28so we have to remember that.
02:31And individuals who are alive now are not eligible, right?
02:35So we did try to give this a scope, if you will.
02:40And then, and we can't forget,
02:42those who are eligible have been here for 23 years,
02:46in the U.S., for 23 years.
02:48And they are, that spouse obviously is married
02:51to someone who's an American citizen.
02:54And they probably have children here, some of them, right,
02:57who are American citizens because they were born here.
03:00And so, look, we're gonna continue to take steps
03:04to crack down on smugglers, right?
03:07We're gonna continue to take steps to secure the border,
03:10you know, and so that is something
03:12that we're certainly going to focus on.
03:14But I think to answer the question in a more broader sense,
03:20the immigration system is broken.
03:22It is broken.
03:23It has been broken for decades, for decades.
03:26The President on day one wanted to get ahead of that
03:29or try to fix that, move that forward
03:32by putting forth a broken immigration system.
03:35The announcement today does not take away
03:37from the fact that the immigration system is broken.
03:40And it does not take away from the fact
03:41that Congress needs to act.
03:44And we want to see a balanced approach.
03:46We want to see a bipartisan approach to this.
03:49And they could, they can do it.
03:50They can certainly do that.
03:53Following up on immigration,
03:55when you were asked about timing earlier,
03:56you were mentioning the President
03:57prefers to work with Congress.
03:59Like, why not earlier this year, for example,
04:02or late last year?
04:03I know the bipartisan Senate bill was being worked on,
04:06but that didn't include parole in place for spouses
04:09or anything for DACA recipients.
04:10Yeah, I mean, look.
04:12It seems different.
04:13No, I hear you.
04:14Look, there's been many phases of this, obviously.
04:16There was first the comprehensive immigration proposal,
04:21legislation that the President introduced day one, right?
04:24And then he took, he's taken actions, right,
04:26from that moment until the bipartisan discussion
04:31was happening in Senate.
04:32Like, he's taken multiple actions, right?
04:35And then we had an opportunity late last year,
04:38early this year, to do that in a more balanced approach,
04:41right, to do that in the Senate
04:43with both Republicans and Democrats.
04:45So the President took that opportunity
04:47and directed his team to have those conversations.
04:50And we believed at that time what the proposal
04:52that was being put forward was going to be fair,
04:55tough but fair.
04:56And I would say since then,
05:00since it was rejected by Republicans twice,
05:02the President has looked at every option.
05:04And we say that. We say that many, many times.
05:07We look at all options.
05:09And we try to figure out how we can move forward
05:12with these different options and different ways.
05:15And, look, with the EO to secure the border,
05:19this is something that a majority of Americans
05:21wanted to see, right?
05:23No, I understand that, but the Senate bill
05:25seems separate than what's being announced today.
05:28No, and I'm agreeing with you.
05:29So, like, I'm trying to understand the impetus
05:31and why now for the interactions today.
05:33No, but I'm agreeing with you.
05:34There's been many iterations of different ways
05:37to move forward in dealing with a broken immigration system.
05:40The first one was a comprehensive plan
05:42that the President himself put forward.
05:44And then he took actions, right?
05:46He took other actions between then, that moment,
05:50until we got to the Senate and their bipartisan proposal.
05:56And that was different. You're right.
05:57It is very different than what you're seeing here.
05:59The President has always said.
06:00Remember, he's taken executive actions before.
06:03He took one very recently.
06:05And he's looking at every way to figure out
06:07how we can have policy that's also fair.
06:10We've always said that our immigration policy
06:12needs to be fair and just.
06:14We've always said that.
06:15And we've taken different approaches.
06:16We've taken different action.
06:18This is the announcement for today.
06:19Is it fair to say you wanted to sign the executive order
06:21on the border before doing something like this for those?
06:24I mean, I'm not going to get into that.
06:27I think we know, right, for some time,
06:31that what we're seeing at the border is dynamic.
06:34We saw that, right?
06:35That they were — that it was important
06:37to deal with the challenges of the border.
06:38So the President acted on that.
06:41And we've always said — we've always said
06:43that we need an immigration policy
06:45that's more just, that's more fair.
06:47I mean, let's not forget, this is a President
06:49that was part of the DACA, right?
06:52DREAMers getting a shot here and being able to stay
06:56and get work permits. That happened in 2012.
06:58So there's nothing unusual, I think, of where we are today
07:02than where the President has stood for some time,
07:04more than a decade.
07:06And so I think this is all part of that.
07:08This is all part of building on actions that he has taken.
07:12He would love to see a comprehensive
07:16congressional approach. We still need that.
07:18We still need legislation.
07:19And so he'll continue to work on that.
07:21Okay, Michael.