The Hulu Original documentary “WeWork: or The Making and Breaking of a $47 Billion Unicorn” follows the rise and fall of hippie-messianic WeWork founder Adam Neumann, who was forced out of his own real estate company after his promise to the public at large fell flat.

In an interview for Variety’s “Doc Dreams,” presented by National Geographic, deputy editor Meredith Woerner spoke with director Jed Rothstein about Neumann’s ambitious plans and how his opinion on the controversial figure changed over time.