The 1973 coup in Chile is often included in indictments of U.S. covert action during the Cold War. But Jack Devine, a former CIA operations officer who was stationed in Chile at the time, argues in the July/August issue that the CIA did not plot with Chilean General Augusto Pinochet to overthrow the country's democratically elected president, Salvadore Allende.

Gideon Rose, editor of Foreign Affairs, recently down with Devine to get his take on U.S. involvement in Chile, the role of covert action in U.S. foreign policy, and Putin's playbook in Ukraine.